Curt Schilling

Curt Schilling on D&C: Red Sox 'need to grab somebody that can actually pitch in October'

June 01, 2016 - 8:14 am

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling joined Dennis & Callahan with Minihane on Wednesday morning and discussed how good Mookie Betts and Xander Bogaerts have been, as well as possible starting pitchers the Sox might want to acquire to shore up the rotation. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page. Betts and Bogaerts continue to swing hot bats, with Betts slamming three home runs Tuesday and Bogaerts extending his hitting streak to 24 games. "They are both playing elite, high-leverage positions. … You are looking at two potential MVPs, two potential batting champions," Schilling said. "Here's the thing: People want to keep waiting for this and waiting for that, the downside -- it's the same thing they are doing with Travis Shaw. [But] these guys can play." Schilling continued to stress the importance of the Red Sox getting another starting pitcher. "At the deadline [the Sox] need to go back and grab a starter, and not James Shields. You need to grab somebody that can actually pitch in October," Schilling said. "I love Julio Teheran in Atlanta. The only reason I say that is because I've heard that [the Braves are] very interested in making moves. I love the age, I like the potential. I don't know how coachable, I don't know what kind of guy he is. ... Somebody on Periscope mentioned Rich Hill, which is ironic, but yeah, that could be another one. I think their bullpen will find its way. I like their bullpen. Carson Smith being gone doesn't help, but I think they're good enough. I want to see a starter. I want to see a starter because, listen, if David Price goes 22-4 this year and loses and gets his butt kicked in October, a lot of people are going to be saying, 'What was that for?' You need another guy." When examining the mental makeup of a pitcher, Schilling said it's good to note which opposing hurlers step up against the Red Sox' potent bats. "I always relished the chance to pitch against this [type of] lineup because I knew nobody else liked it," Schilling said. "You make your reputation on shutting teams down like this. ... When you're looking for potential pitchers, watch the guys that step up against this team. Because those are the guys that are saying, 'Listen, I've got to do this to be somebody.' And that to me is kind of a little insight into their postseason mentality and their postseason makeup." With the Rays struggling, Schilling speculated that Tampa Bay might consider parting ways with ace Chris Archer. "I think there might be two teams in the league that would have the minor league talent to get Chris Archer," Schilling said. "You would have to give up [Yoan] Moncada and somebody else probably. But I think that that might be a potential. Listen, they have him, he's under a team-friendly contract, so there's no doubt in my mind from a price prospective [the Rays] can maximize leverage. That would be the kind of guy I would go out and get. … I don't think [Rays] will [send him to the Red Sox], you usually don't trade inside the division, and I get that. But like I said, if you offer a package of players -- Moncada and [Andrew] Benintendi and another guy -- does that work? I don't care what division you're in, if I'm getting three potential impact players, I go there." Following are more highlights from the conversation. For more Red Sox news, visit the team page at On the effect of John Farrell's decision to start the season with Travis Shaw instead of Pablo Sandoval: "I think when John Farrell came out of spring training and said the things he did about money vs. the starting job, I think he did it more for the media than for the team. I think the guys in the clubhouse kind of knew that. … This is a different market to play in. There's the game against the other team and there's the game with and against the media. That makes this a very different place." On the 2004 lineup vs. the 2016 lineup: "I need to see this lineup more. They need to do it longer, I think. When you look at '04, and you look at that with Manny [Ramirez] and David [Ortiz] in the middle. Who's your Manny in this lineup? ... I think the difference is in '04 you didn't want our pitching staff. We were going to give you something in '04. We ran three or four starters out there that you had to be awake for." On Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders: "The millennials are getting behind Clinton and Sanders, and both make me want to throw up in my mouth. Because neither one of them represents the country I grew up in, or anything like it. Neither one of them even remotely feels like they can lead anything. Neither one has ever done anything; they have had jobs, they've had job titles. They haven't done anything. [Clinton] was Secretary of State. She was a horrible Secretary of State. She was responsible for deaths that she lied to everybody about. Neither one of them represent anything about the country I grew up in." On Clinton vs. Donald Trump: "We are clearly not trying to pick the best of both worlds. We are either going to pick somebody that is probably the most untrustworthy human being in the history of this country in Hillary Clinton, or I don't even know what you call Bernie Sanders. Or you are going to pick somebody who has not been involved in the political establishment ever his life, other than through business relationships. I think part of what we have done is we have decided to say, 'You know what, screw it, we are tired of the establishment.' Every time the establishment says something bad about Donald Trump I feel like he gets 50,000 more votes. And that, to me, is the people are speaking, finally. Twelve million Republicans sat home last election. I don't think that's going to happen this time." On who Schilling wants to be Trump's vice president: "Trey Gowdy in a heartbeat. But I don't think that's even an option. I think it's going to end up being Newt Gingrich. That's what I think, anyway. I want to see Condoleezza Rice, but I don't think she's going to get in there. I don't think she has any interest." On millennials vs. the Greatest Generation: "I look at the millennials vs. the Greatest Generation like the 2015 Phillies vs. the '27 Yankees. That's not a discussion. I have seen so many memes over the last week and a half that just, to me, kind of categorize and paraphrase and put it in perspective when you talk about what the Greatest Generation was doing at 18, 19 and 20, and what's going on now. I see where some guy said, "My safe space at 18 was Utah Beach.' I don't know that that's even a discussion. But again, the conversation gets radical because people just assume you are lumping everyone together."