Curt Schilling

Curt Schilling on D&C regarding Wade Miley-John Farrell confrontation: 'With guys that are dumb-asses, sometimes it happens in front of the camera'

June 12, 2015 - 5:48 am

ESPN analyst Curt Schilling checked in with Dennis & Callahan on Friday morning to offer his views on the John Farrell-Wade Miley confrontation from Thursday night. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page. During Thursday's 6-5 loss to the Orioles, Miley -- who allowed five runs in four innings -- expressed his frustration to the manager in the Red Sox dugout after being told he would not return for the fifth inning. Farrell followed Miley down the tunnel to the locker room and later downplayed the confrontation rather than publicly admonishing the left-hander. Schilling, who pitched for the Red Sox when Farrell was the team's pitching coach, said Farrell might have been careful with his words to the media, but he's sure the 6-foot-4 field general flexed his muscles in private. "I promise you there was a conversation in which John said, 'If this ever happens again I'll break you in half,' to some degree," Schilling said. "John Farrell isn't just a big dude and he doesn't just have an intimidating presence. He'll throw down. "This happens all the time," Schilling added. "It generally happens a lot of time behind the scenes. With guys that are dumb-asses, sometimes it happens in front of the camera." Asked if the postgame conversation would have happened in front of the team, Schilling said that's not necessary. "There's no sound-proof door on the manager's office, which is about 11 inches away from the clubhouse," Schilling said. "You don't need to do it in front of the team to make sure the team knows." Schilling said he believes Farrell is "a great communicator," and Miley is the one who needs to learn the way things work. "I'm just going to tell you that I'd be more than stunned if [Farrell] didn't make sure that Wade Miley understood how things work from a hierarchy standpoint," Schilling said. "You don't do that. As an ace you don't do that. You want to have a beef with the manager, don't do it on the mound, don't show him up on the field, don't do it in the clubhouse on camera. You do it one-on-one, man-to-man, in the manager's office. That's the way most guys handle it. "When you get guys who don't understand some things about how the play the game, that happens." Schilling said Miley's fire is fine, but he needs a reality check. "I think he was upset about coming out of the game or whatever, but you know what, at the end of the day, frickin' pitch better," Schilling said. "My God. I get being upset, that's fine. As a starting pitcher, you want your starting pitchers [to want to stay in games as long as possible]. ... But there's a line. You've given up a run every inning as a starter, you know what? There's not a whole lot you can say when your manager says, 'Hey, dude, I'm pulling this, this is not working.' " Following are more highlights from the conversation. For more Red Sox news, visit the team page at On Miley: "When I watched this staff in April and they struggled and they did the things they did, there were things that jumped out at me about guy. I loved the thought that every time Wade Miley had the ball he was pitching the last game of his life. He competed. ... I knew when he pitched, if he didn't win it wasn't going to be from lack of effort or lack of preparation. Sometimes you just don't have the stuff to do the things we'd all like them to do. So, I figured he was one of the guys we wouldn't have to worry about. Because he's not a 1, but as a 4 he's great because he'll take care of himself and he wants to win, and all the things that go with that. "But like I said, last night makes you think and see things that sometimes aren't really there, or feel about people the way that they aren't really. They're struggling, and people are on edge. Everybody wants to be the guy to go out and throw the two-hitter and shutout and end the streak. When you're not, it's frustrating. Grown men tend to differ a lot in opinions, and when you're competing, it shows." On Farrell's lack of success in all but one of his seasons as Sox manager: "You can blame it all you want [on the manager]. There are very few situations where I think a manager is throwing a noose around the team's neck and dragging them down under, a la Bobby Valentine. I just think the players haven't played well. I don't think they have the right makeup as a team to contend. They don't have a guy who not just wants to be a No. 1 [pitcher] but understands how to be a No. 1 and go about it. And the offense is not what everybody thought it might be. Players got to play. And again, I think you have a legitimate gripe if you want to get on him as a manager for the wins and losses -- I think he'd agree with that." On Farrell's role as a manager who previously was a pitching coach: "Remember this, now: He's not the pitching coach. I know you'd like to think he's hands-on and all that other stuff. That's not how that works. It's not how it can work. He'll get involved, and I'm sure he has in the past in different situations if the coach comes to him. But you've got to let your pitching coach do his job. You can't be standing around with him doing his job looking over his shoulder worrying about what you're thinking." On if the Red Sox can salvage their season: "I don't think this is a playoff team, no." On if Farrell will get fired this year: "I don't know, Honestly, I don't know. I don't know what the vibe is. I don't know what the situation is between the three-headed monster up top and the manager and the baseball ops people. If Ben [Cherington]'s allowed to make the decisions Ben's allowed to make, I would assume that him and John are on the same page with, hey, this is not working, we don't have this, we don't do this, or whatever, I don't know. But the communication has always been at the forefront of who and what they are with both Ben and John." On if someone in upper management would have called Farrell to discuss the situation: "The only person I could see doing that would be Larry [Lucchino]. I don't think the other ones -- they were probably watching Liverpool replays. I don't know. If you're to believe with what John Henry tells you, then they don't mess around with baseball ops. That's Ben's job. I guarantee you there was a conversation between Ben and John last night. And it was either John calling and saying, 'Hey, here's what happened,' or Ben going, 'Hey, what the hell.' This is the stuff on top of a bad season you don't want. Because then you start to get warts as a player or warts on other people that don't exist. But you guys know the cure-all, the answer: Everybody's an awesome guy when you're winning. Nobody is when you're losing."