#DORK 66: Best New England Beers

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Thursday, May 17th
Rich Keefe is joined by beer experts Josh Deering and Will Woodward to discuss all things New England Beer.  They breakdown the official #DORK Top 10 Massachusetts Breweries, highlight other great breweries across New England, select their Ultimate 6-Packs and much more. Twitter: @DORKpodcast

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I think what also in wanting. I mean Netflix shows there's no real season forms of economic common go into ground on rebel but Alec billions on a quest world let's follow him. Yes a flock at times. It is it's a little bit lower win those shows that you can kind of like trying to predict what's gonna happen next game thrown style for a bunt you know there's nothing meant. Aside from some a couple of how are brighter parts of for this episode we're talking to the standard this week indoor predicted that the earlier episode check out. Past act or episodes. This is going to be the best New England Beers. And I I'm not even joking when I say these two guys are beer expert what he knows everything about your new England and maybe you're in the world woody I feel pretty confident things. Through trial and married yes that's how you Aaron and Eric. Full disclosure Josh steering works currently at idle hands brewery which we will mentioned several times in the podcast. Bite out of podcast from reports we had a live show what I don't answer that if you listening where there thank you for going to that dials a telephone hope we will do that again. And I'll be out there right now it's of Josh says something good about idle hands. It's not because it works it's because it's great woody and I can speak for him into you want that makes it even more or less or easier for you into it that way. So there's a lot of different ways we can do this a lot of different ways to break it up. We're just stealing an idea from boston.com. They did their top ten Massachusetts. Breweries. And they have their own system for I think they'll ultimately be your advocate is mostly through peer advocate rankings they used yes so they came up of their top they're all just in Massachusetts. We all put to our heads together we all rank them and in a top ten. And then based on where we rank them like him as the first place finish at ten points all the way down to one. So we have our top ten as the owner of I have to ignore the forward to that some of the honorable mentions. Here were some that that did pretty well but just missed out in one that I know JD elect a lot is Jack that. Love Jack's I think that are you know Massachusetts goes they make the defining hop you longer around and since they branch often and Springdale including part of Jack's Abbey's Springdale yet. They've added on some great IDs and Sowers in different things at Jack's Abby a lager brand wasn't doom before I think they deserve. Dudley acknowledged in the senate decent tapper to him and framing him and without one and two rejects idea that's another pretty Rel readily available to. Dad and I think they got hurt a little bit 'cause some of us voted projects that be some of those voted for just Springdale so those two things combine probably earned him a little bit but yet polish as Igawa castle island just missed the top ten on a huge cast I'll stand their double that he had the high Def like a lot that's also not super duper hard define their vote rise in a few different days plus other stuff. That's pretty good but I into the council announced. Medusa with a when he hears what the mind of what years ago when I don't have an element is that there we've been Hudson mass on a great cap room and great peerless there they don't make a bureau that in this and so far and they've got a really excellent brown don't puddles on the those styles like the lesser sales especially those are longer so. And like I've been medical times to their tap room nice Hudson and actually has a bunch really did like beer bars and stuff like that in great downtown Hudson. And so it's a good place to check out another gipper is back lash who is day to me have one of the best logos were noticeable that the brass knuckle and like so. I just jump in guys know that they changed their logo is when they aired its opener brewery in Roxbury and they have gone ahead and change there iconic brass knuckles logo across the top the list. Right off the list now I like that because that's what. Drew immediate now when I went to a bit of its appear facets of you guys but there was one years and years ago it was just annoying than beer fest that want to. And yeah I mean you ideally wanted to try something from everybody but when they have their huge logo of like I got us through these guys are up to. In our profit or making ricochet that are not or is it something and then but as it was good what the hell's alone now so it's it's a beat and has to. There was going for one arrow going back multiple. You know what actually so they had some at the store and our water chemical maybe that's just for that canyon now know they re branded as a get closer to opening their new opera which is going to be you got it down on them they should have done some market researchers those about the look and they're still without a I'd like back Matt backlash yet and elders also got to make some great Bierbauer until they establish themselves in a room you know that's definitely an album that's the national rankings are last Barbara mentioned was on his way is that what your student yeah absolutely where were these guys these guys are an orange masks as a dog towards western and yes stadium and another Rory who does a lot of things really well and they do a small space hard to get to answer there agree tampering and their Beers are excellent in the pop up and boss and now are they just live off five armaments and that's not in the top ten coming in at number ten is Aron. There are not era really. Like you were talking about going to. Be a kind of a beer festival and stumbling upon something. They had their two year anniversary Adam beer festival in Boston I guess it was two years ago. And that one I tried and I remember being blown away by it and they really started just come up with more IP is more sessions some really interesting other stuff too that. Now a lot of what they put out before I was an interested in the at a smaller lineup and now they've really started fine they fired the zone. The I hop pop and away which is again for the the lower alcohol content and that is it was a doctor and and though or the other doctors in the air duct man of really good they're cool looking cans like at that matters really but I I it's it's it's good on the guy there. Artworks breezes and tap -- huge and there anniversary Beers it is you're a doctor Meehan do it just kind of their flagship beer and may have second year third year and now foresee Arendt who knows what they're gonna do with your five but they're all very different all showcase some different. Ops it's it's. Not secure number nine now this on I have not heard of and it was it was ranked very highly of your list would be don't be reckoned the other. Yeah I think I'm probably the only one who had this on their list on its front end confirm northern masked by the Vermont border. I've only had a that one place it's a bull talked about the plays a little bit later its arms be abbey in Worcester they have. A line that always includes truly mint hill farm stead in some really big hitters and I remember trying these guys alongside some of those other. Bigger named Marie is in they've lived up if not exceeded some of those Beers. You can only get it and a couple bars right around there brewery and at their liberate the dunking in anything yet but the stuff they're putting out is. On believe what you have from them idea as soon be out all I PA's really eclectic names on and like I said you can go in there you can get prowler is to go their branded with temporary because it's Massachusetts and were reared with. The laws but it's worth making the trip out there especially for don't know in the Vermont. That's a pretty that's covenant number nine number eight up all the guys have this a lot higher and careless about posed to them I just happened that have higher than me the number eight is mystic missing they've been around for awhile on the loss of Beers and it has been about seven years and they start off as a resented the X es on farm house ilsley that Celine in the past two or three years it started branching out and I PA's. And they're making some really XIPA's own big up to milk shake I dipping right now while which got us in my favor but the Beers that are making a very good is this the voltage is what they do that mr. youngster or karma yeah that's their big more readily available on and dies. Tired hands down in. Outside Philly has really started to milk shake I PH thing and it's it's if you don't love my PA's and like something really fruit forward and easy. This stuff they're due mobile me now with mr. hicks win night shift first started it was up north they share place none of those those elements those. Which we share wall mystics are has always been and Chelsea. That's artistic and tells us so yep because what the old place the old night shift at Iowa driver's side by side yes. And I was at a ball moved on to bigger but it is yet. I also as domestic their table beer drilling for elegant nice easy drinking beer like four point 3% lead of one of the best able leaders. Around period. Are you look at that probably aren't separate I feel lucky and and there are one that definitely like their stock now compared to what it was him a couple of years ago I feel like is much higher it's it's more people are optimistic now for populate most of these Beers on top ten or most of his breweries. They're stocks is known up and up patent. You know bunch of these jumped up out of nowhere and even the ones that are at the top and risen to the cream of the crop here as it especially is a lot of them expand production number seven is out of Salem it's notch which has a great tapper over that I Judea and your paradigm notch is my favorite after Massachusetts and they make some paper beer on the view all sociable Beers sold under 5%. The really focus on pills owners launchers and do really traditional Sally got a crazy Bruce estimate not a lot of people have. And allows them to do some really really fun things and make fears that. Nobody else can touch this hour's reflects our for a and they make really hoppy session Beers to and you know there easily found in stores are found and audit track you know a lot of bars because of the listeners everywhere. Left of about such not PA's everywhere and summertime it's majestic and finding now is Michael here and can't it's clear they do a lot of events to win will be like of the year host for a bunch of events like if you're up in northeastern Massachusetts. They do things at all sorts of 'cause session will be years or so go to kind of outdoor events and probably if you're having an event much happier having Beers that are four point 3% rather be eight or nine efforts does that put your editor. Load up they're like they're going in October you go up to Salem to go check out all the weird those of all the a hundred houses everything go to not to late Katie says it's awesome when you walk in there it's huge. You go up there they always have a bunch of different things on tap in. You have a few honestly could still drive home because it's a four point 2% are ever felt he could feel better about doing that. They go to some deliveries getting you know two double IPA's Jesus but million recreation. Drop Shawn Hill from health Armstead said you wanna make him. Beers for the people that are drinking them and he's like I'm in Vermont people are gonna have to drive everywhere around here and it's rather have that people have a copilot not just kind of like that if you wanna go someplace and not just have one beer yeah in have a Koppel can do that it would not Beers. Hasegawa komen for seven number six lit later. Which then hit a couple of my favorite Beers right now I think rabbit rabbit not it and that you later on their double like PA. Is as good as I think that there is in the game right now also birds of a feather which is that there's standardized PA but they have they have a number of other Beers as well I mean again I sort of focused on what do you do as well. But that they have a lot of good stuff in lamp lighters is definitely my parents. Yeah absolutely and speaking of Beers that are readily available if you live around Massachusetts it's super readily available at your local craft Beers stork. You can get all that kind of stuff and again I'll look they have a variety a lot of their more popular Beers now go into this easy New England night PA style but you know they've really come along way just in a short period of time here. JD that are ideally one and I don't know wide range of Beers and they really long. Our number five are in our top 51 votes recap top the ten to six era not brick and further mystic not in the land later. Number five. Night shift. Night shift for it ever comes in at number five and these are one of the guys again going back to my first experience that in the wing and beer fest. They had some pretty crazy peers that jumped out to me and again I also like the logo maybe maybe I'm more focused on the logo that I should be but they're our logos bad ass like if if the if the old backlash Bobo is the best one was the best on retired the towels pretty bad ass from my chip but they have. All kinds of different stuff like I don't know. This what their specialty would be maybe it's that line with hours. But dale they have all kinds of other stuff they have single IPA's double life PA's they have. Different. But we're going to be years as well that they used to kind of experiment with. Really good tap room as well really enjoyable tap room Ed there appears now. Easier and easier to get better before. Yet. You know elected podcasters who week. Decided to top ten masters brewers wouldn't discuss exactly what we meant by that so. He's factoring in logos heavily apparently after I yeah I did tap room a little bit their tap room is fantastic it just expanded so it's even bigger now. Even in the point what it was such a podcast over or what do you mean by top tempers. Let's read those are right now I would say your right tapper and should be included. Just the number of could be years but the highest quality of the best the year. I tried to tell our idea little brat even though I'm not really one to have reached out to too much variety I think having options available that they get points and at nights at the if you go to the river right now you can brings that you go with a with a ten friends widget to your wife who likes. She loves hours and so nice if she loves some of those guys of the balls started McCain and the ever vice all of a sudden which critics but it was a phenomenal story. Your problems he or she let this hour's they have they have a good mix there. I will say my favorite beer by them that make you Morton and know that follow the hot and era. Yet except they do unless time and you couldn't even and constantly. Every releasing. What is gone much now I'm not. Monica there for that but. It's delicious hope within make it again they get mad when you ask him out every talent go to the government does it up there again in view of Americans like opera there in that era well god does that answer is still no rich I'll let that please I love it that much but that's honestly. What got me hooked on Albert. Being liked. This is. Or or pasting it in like this beer is so different and I like the spice in house like I remembered night shift because of that beer and then I ended up like that like the 87 I really like. Most of the one hop this time to violate the Santa is a good good solid beer in the world oil that is. Made just a good representation of kind of the Boston area of Beers because they do a lot of things that you know they have cut other breweries have started take on. The new Beryl aids thing which is unique. On the squeaked their recipes like 87 today is different from when it first originally started I think our better Indy do the kind of experimental rotational series they have their rotational scenery is uncalled more for which sites. It's loss on some people that that's not the same every time. What does this do if I don't get out of gets more out there it is got to like. But in JD you can post beat the better they're also. Really out on the fourth brought him like that distributing thing aren't they like the guys that night shift Ehrlich really. They care about like. The rights of roars in like this distribution area deadly start of their own distribution company which today they were sick of the mass rules so they went out there start their own company and they're bringing in bringing in great beer from across Massachusetts across the country across the world on the bridge and off into other. Drinks now to non alcoholic so they're really pushing. You know about the guys care about this when up Reid gets almost too big. Like for example if there's like I happened to and you guys can make faces if you want. I don't mind lord mobile be yours now it's not my favorite thing in the world but. Please somebody had a boom sauce or a steal this game and or whatever the other ones are altering it now a fine time. But it's literally everywhere like I my brother in law who also was obsessive dear lives in upstate New York. If he's that Alia we have that here like so it's is that so easy to get idolize these things. Does that matter we're gonna get to a couple that are at the top of our last year that you have to kind of go out your way to yet. Night shift to me is still really and again I don't like everything they have but I liked them. But there are literally everywhere so it's not like oak while you have night shift it's like OK yes you what we're doing the convenience store and of course you mention of does that does that. Mattered because of all you know does podcasts of making faces doesn't do anybody any obvious artists on this blog are predicting that you're gonna make a basement that I don't mind lord oh yeah. I mean it's fine but I think it matters if as you grow you can maintain your quality and consistency needs don't just start to mass produce stuff for the sake of selling. The most you can sell its kind of a double edged sword a little bit there on and I kind of feel same way you do about lord Obama that. If somebody as a state that's a good year olds and that but I'm never seeking it out not that you have to that's probably true. Like I haven't bought mania that like Nevada like a bar. And depending on what they're listed as they that might be the best moment half. That Arquette yeah yeah familiar if that's the case that sort of like if I'm going to like randomly up the street from me. They know how popular like a mask for a craft Beers are so their list is and say put a small little liquor store they have a crazy one even like a place like wegmans. Has a pretty good list now we're like weapons has always had a Kuznetsova and that's true they. But you you go there are nearly bullet boom sauce for example might be the atmosphere they have there which is Karen not skip the guy I don't think it's that Adam via I like it but. So but I put on night shift is that the fact that you see it everywhere now. Do you like it less or more or I guess maybe your point as long as it's so good quality. Yet and I just the point for me is more if you're small and it's harder to get the cool part of that for me is that. When I get a I like to share with friends and it's like oh here's something you've bought at a younger team to dress up to do LaSalle openers bomb. The fact that you have to really work to get it isn't have an advantage ads of pain in the ass a lot of the time I I got angry about those beer but it is like a nice happy medium like one that maybe batter in the world has so you're still like when you see it you kind of perk up. But it's also a McEnroe wait in line four and a lot of people listen this BC they were carbonneau in the Beers. You've probably done a thing where you've driven two hours in the waited in line for two hours like that to mean. Is too much because there's so many could be years that you don't need to do that that's just as you know do it for you. That's a blitzer thank you that's when I would use is due five years ago. I would try to Vermont a RF two and a half three hours go away for two and a half three hours go somewhere elsewhere and live for another hour and help lead and then yeah right a stroke bombing Lebanon really get Tom to be in the new England and our interests you act as though Dell streak before you. Like yeah I got to drive out of Vermont and like I gotta drive out to Portland Oregon does and and now it's like. Are going to go down you know ten minutes Thailand's or ten minutes or wherever else and was gonna go hang out there you know get a couple four packs and ago. And that's a much easier now and appear to meet. Is almost the exact and quality in I don't think that's unique to New England while New England as a hotbed of of especially IPA's if you really like I'd PA's. But I think it's happening all over the country to you that your local gallery down the road is producing stuff that is as good as a place that you. Have to drive a cultural art so anyway getting back to moralists topped them for is number five was nights at number four exhibit today. They have a couple of of beauty thing at the cat's meow in the at the air racer again I sort of what was morally IP is but there there are other things as well. But exhibit today framing. And screaming at me and these original just happy status. It took over the if there's basically is an original tax out relocation is words in the days now how about that fun fact about me both my parents from Birmingham. But it. Ricky to time in football champion that's that Elijah and he's had a drought. Got a shot of identity does not listen this is not download the operative and bomb. But yet he's an alien feeling and to. And there another one that. Distributes really well also cat's meow hair raiser on their colds cold goody two issues I you can get those pretty well and again there another one who does a rotational series. Letter there who likes the calls I love. Are there miles get an old Acela bill also must not I love Michael. Are right my dad Byron lighten refresh we like these today calls fickle yet their calls up. The man doubles first tuba schools is nasty lie like a real addresses the 21 thing that made. And I feel fine until I feel great actually is would be anti people brought appears I feel tremendous. As the exhibit say anything else like that today before know another over that as they got a great idea Anadarko reporter and they got a great goals or reporter to the right yeah installment right there they do three things and really really well mattered. You know towards the toppled any beer in the state and fewer start Newbury. Would you say I think it's two really good beer or three signature appears what what what what would you go with. Because the gamut a lot of these have been they've branched off may have a million U goalie agony is sampler this example of that but if you can hang your hat on how. How many different types of Beers Steve. The flagship bears you'll yeah like how many would you still like these are our peers I think that's the idea of a flight appears changing honestly if I get into that like a lot of places are open now know just rotate through Beers manual how they're gonna have their own terrapins is an example place that for the most partly. Keep doing different Beers and they don't reply to same beer time after time after time and you work on hours and hours and hours on way to get some. And some you know there's so many options available to its numbers go the other way now to religious have their three or four options that they grew. Tirelessly until. They start to get him. Was funny one time. So by my brother my other dimension want from the podcasts out of the him also does he wasn't but I I had him go to night shift is. My wife and and his wife for a out to a summit to tonight's yet. And it was like the most random time they literally only had four Beers on tap into chips aren't heard up right as the few years ago. Before my years ago nobody without the new spot. Without the new spot and we went out like Taylor he's gonna sampler Mike Hsu we like to call you liar obsessed swear to god. Hand to take god. We've got their time tell it like I'm like all week is there a million years there have thirty draft and got by and then we're look at the return to order the sampler and the purse though parts that are like. Bull it's basically disparities for her like uh oh. While I've that I don't like and then the whole premise that like I don't know what happened right guys I swear they're supposed to be more Beers there and it looks like. The same for peers than it then I went like you know a few months later with my eyes and it was like. Nine different Beers or ten different Beers it was like very bizarre but anyway. Number four was exit today number three. Idle hands. In JD we're not response smoke lava man I've I've had pierced and everybody on this list I guess with the exception of African father. About yours from everybody on the on the top are mentions. But forcing him in six team big galaxy foresee in the little spin on it there. That changeup series which you guys are now up to twelve Utley and number pulls on rhino awesome like so I think repeat our put those Beers up against anybody else yeah. And again we talk about you wanna go out to a brewery weave your family years and you want your wife who likes ours has some brand new brother in law rulings Belgians to have something idle hands can do all that for you. And keep an Arabic IPA guys and so the four seam was rarely and really change up serious to changeup I think it was one. Two and four that. Or is really knows maybe someone can solve this mystery man around Florence at some point. But those in between now. You know to seem if you wanna session you're talking about god having. A session yet that he's like a true wide PA and I can journey pitch that notes mark Dell's he pertinent to his team you know your Hinton you might put it in teens eventually stole. You know he already there's a deep and I doubt. Looking at a I got all summer and visited chances sounds like put nothing's been confirmed on the so it the other obviously you like them for you but let me ask you about. When people come in there like what sells the miles it's a force in past is the idea is guy pays far away. And so he started it wasn't really about the Japanese at all no wind the Marie started seven years ago the Chris or owner only brood Belgians I'll leaders right. And any broad and I had brewer that introduced her and sciele Beers in the rotation and that was idle hands up and sold out from open two years ago. That's really when the IPAs are being introduced was on the top from open and and and Beers also. A tremendous tap room away and not just because we hosted dateline past that are the only ever lied aspect or podcast episode ever and sold out uttered. Is banged out clause stating there's no Connie vote. It was banged up their line Ford again and showed up it was awesome those those whose fault everybody Islam would be years it was awesome at what he said. There's such a variety because every like that yeah most people listen probably do that's sort of what that culture and real beer snobs like us are sort of become IP people bought. And everything else slowly when I go. With my wife bought time. She doesn't look right for the Sowers is with ours the peculiar idols she loves in the event that tropical one. She likes how much more than media or the blow our theology while the tropical one. But there are other constantly you guys have a good table the year you guys have a good law and my father loves the battle like yeah like. It's funny I try to get the my dad drinks more beer than anybody you know against that what he did not just. Out. But he's got a mustache he does the ground there at ease short is much shorter than me but he did what I ass there's no doubt old men shot and but he's the guy who. Like I like all these different Beers he does he drinks like the lockers you know it alls like he's under longer and so. He's not opposed to the other time obligate us that gays and 52 hopped whoever. But then when you get them some of these like the walkers. Who loves them and I can tell the difference gaga before pack of like the like night shift locker. And then Oklahoma among players. In the letter in your area there's collective that might. And this fine. I. Exactly exactly. That. But I get them the other four packed from my chip and I go back with a week later dog but all the talk like at least that nobody really. Likes that one and so that's the beauty of it that you go there it's the opposite of the problem I had night shift you wanna sampler. When he got that usually arm on me on draft. It's usually ten to twelve yes that's the end of the full list. And an even have some bonus ones that he can get either that or partly because the always found that more than ground forward every wanna do. It's. It's great now is the fourth team. Always available year round now that the plan. Yes there's there's some game is not your rounds team is every channel every three months sport I'm here. It's what I like right but no matter what. That's the last Wednesday in June comes out so marker felt confident that Tony are you want us. Now I figured if I want to stop podcast now you know I don't senseless I'll put that in the owner. Of the the idea I don't know all I heard anything it's that the problem it's gone it's played out. So I actually I love that about it is it's like if you're going to idle hands on any given weekend like I know at the very least and getting a force. But if you happen to be going on the right time you can also get a. Sixty galaxy force team I know all it is great it was mine that one. That if I go there if I see it in the beer store I am gonna buy that and then everything anything else and what is the plan with the changeup series is that it's gonna continue for infinity missiles gonna keep on. As as we get new Hobbs knew he served you know Oprah are happily he wants it try coming out if he's worried about something but how supply being shorter in the future elect. Now price on an out in the championship series just so he has in his back pocket. In case summing happens foresee with slams cops you know he has. Did any of the fourth or a year ago with any of the change ups what the fourth. Yes of all its combination I think is how does combination as a fuel early on it took six. Changeup to get to forcing. Access of your your tweet him and you're sort of doing now with the change ups for me or better than the more series. The other again you'll run into a good more but the changeup that's always one thing I was there when I go to the does that title chances like. Are what are your changeup is steaming glass of that let me try that and for the most part all great the card number or early on. A member of the three was not my favorite but to our loved and for our loved and then after that try to limit them pretty strong and yet to the point where Keith and I were like emailing and texting each other being a ginger and our four trillion pieces that I setup guys usually get there before they get rid of that kids and yet you gotta get there. Our as the number three is idle hands and again we couldn't recommend that one enough so check them out in Malta in 89 commercial street malt and that's right number two on our list I think everybody knows again dear people know where our top two is that coming in at number two. It is trillium. Who has million IPA's. Pale Ailes double life PA's they have other stuff they supporters they have similar different things but they're definitely known for their. Juicy juice the Jews bomb. I PA's. They have the location right in Boston and the organization. Was in Tanzania and can't I sign up on the weekend won yet out of the tap from there are. It's very good they just opened patio there and they're actually building a new four point Boston facility to that I have a restaurant and so a roof deck and a root. So they also have they have a spot. Todd a quarter off on the eve Rose Kennedy Greenway and they have like a little beer garden beer garden awesome and amazing now I once again. That was my brother mock him while I mention them but we only went there is that little film against the other and so we went there. But trillium when that the war out there with throw him. Is that so many different kinds indeed be constantly that they'll have. Them like mosaic congress street or the galaxy congress street oral drug popped the public an executive at a million different kinds. So I think I know what my favorite ones are from them but it's very confusing and they're constantly change. Yet and they might not have been the very first ones to start this but they're definitely one of the ones who popularized. The double dry hot version of things. And that like. A lot of breweries now is even if they don't advertise it distinctly they'd double dried up a lot of Beers. It's to the point where. I poured double desktop congress street into a beer glass in my mother walks into the room and sees things and drinking orange use Iraq that anger fear. That's so. That's the but he says it would important class I don't wanna deal with the early. If not I thought that I wanted to be sold. Hazy like that. And that's almost everything from journalism is in teacher and I mean I'd like those Beers to a lot of people are doing those fears that part of while. The only way to figure out what's it like it's tried once there's what we like he's gonna be different than Iowa however listening ears like in maybe even lake I'd PA's. You know. That is certainly become super popular and of the singular New England style. And I think trillions definitely a big part of that. And so the thing when you go into the boss the location when he walked in there your your basically walking hand. And you can't try and you gotta go you gotta ask for your case again ask for your four pack or whatever is data's there and this is the classic one that. You basically go down you'd double park you leave your car running in sprint in the and you get whatever you can in any sprint there again not addictive Bernard kitten great spending tan but if you're going to want in Boston. That's so I've done it and that's also the first time I think ever. That. About a case of beer. I spent over a hundred dollars sounds like the balk in my in my life but I like to know what it's delicious I'll love it can't do all the time but. It's expensive that you know we are money's going back. It's also the first for you that I remember. Following them on social media and them announcing a beer on a particular day hands I can't remember exactly which one was a and it might have even been a collaboration. Yeah our pal from law deaths or something like that where I remember being like. Spoke at a note I'm doing at launch time immediately leaving my office I'm driving over there in the double parked in front you know and brought whatever ideologues Brooklyn there will give me an and I will go back to work and without my life and I having you know I hadn't really done that and any bird at that point. It's yet and the Jews bombs that there is little doubt his bomb. And you know I loved going down on the first open as slick bigger. Nerds across the country and I trade Beers and then you know there's extra layer primary like mailing Beers answers which really came on the scene ever what is like he needs in the trillium you need to give me traumas like. Amazing how quick their rise was and how good quality of the beer was a widget that. They kind of owns a pioneer the soil but they came that quickly won the most well known brewers. Of the style now I know you can get trillium at some restaurants like they are willing to go to some Ive been to one of shock rust on the menu is a place that I never a million years thought about the peerless that a dead. And I got trillium on draft that I got I told all my friends over there like you this what you're getting like you have to get this again I can't believe it's here and their compound but anyway I loved it. Do you think there ever going to be like eons the worse or do you think they'll let them do their limited amount and stores aren't the only bit I get her announced source in the years if they are sellers to yes are there don't. But it depends on kind of their self the real love for what they do a guy in the beer so they have some of their flagship like four point her column nursery. Or some of those that you me get there. But now. You're trading like I remember sending my body in California. Some trillium. And he was like these are solid gold I could trade a hundred Beers for one Keyon of this and I remember him looking in his fridge one day. India is less than he remembered he looks over at his father in law. In he'd been drinking I'm thinking they were Miller Lite and he's like these guys such as. The growth so he's not married and and aren't that. Add up when there's not enough but I am I am a huge span in fact I'm the only person three of us that voted trillion number one. Our real number one ball you got the number one I put it number two I think most through loud and that number one doubt be tree house. There's no not a shock there. Note tree houses and saint trio Rocco Rocco. While you would like this off the board Sam Adams that is number one or or or harpoon though it is it's three out just ridiculous now. One of the things that I. In this unfair I would admit that I sort of held against treehouse is just how out of the way yet to go to get it. And count them more pain in the ass factor not petroleum is the easiest thing in the world. But if you live near Boston and for awhile I did it was a lot easier to yet. Then entry like to ask you get up to Worcester is you know wait in line and you also don't necessarily know what your gonna again. It's gotten better if they moved into new brewery. Probably about a year ago at this point they're bomb. And I remember. Driving to tree house the first time maybe three or four years ago is a winner in ninety. And I remember turning off the highway onto the paved road in and turning onto an omelet road in my wife turns three goes. Tell me now if you're gonna murder me or does. I don't feel sick I don't feel safe and then. We don't see another car the rest of the fifteen minutes we drive and we pull into the parking lot of tree house packed with cars and turned the corner it's just late with. People drinking out in the open grow and it's gotten better in the other reason that now treat house's march. It's it's worth making the trip is because used to be able to get like half a decent person and he would be happy with the but now you can get. More than you can afford it dead calm in one trip 'cause their production has just expanded so dramatic. Then their temporary that. I have not had a bad beer from. Treehouse enough yet across styles he can name a style that they've screwed out of there of course are well known for IP is but thousand porters and other other brown ale that they unity as to the pills Mary you know there. Everything that they have done has an axle. All my favorites doubts are basically there's doubts and a couple others that. They continue to blow me away and everything but I think that's why in the leg he said what you like this isn't necessarily unique to Massachusetts but it's why you can hold Massachusetts up to any other state will like all we have treehouse trillium idle hands exhibit today. Night shift that we we have these here in our own state so I don't care what your brain of the table we feel that we can compete with. Yeah that's let alone you know mess that new includes a small collection of state so that they don't even factoring in the ones that are shorter drive than going out to. Some of the western masters or northern massacre how to talk. So let's get to those as wells a real quick ten to one again was air or not. Brick and further mystic notch lamp lighter night shift exit today idle hands trillium and tree house. As for the other primaries in New England. Again I feel like I could be wrong here Vermont and Maine really highlight the list maybe New Hampshire or idiotic in my personal opinion Rhode Island Connecticut account lagging behind but. What other ones would you say deserve to be mentioned here. I mean the. Obvious ones are in drawn yet ever alchemist health farm stead aren't law loans that'll add those the ones a lot of people now. Home brewers which is right in Burlington. He is less well known than those but is also phenomenal but thought at this point foam is the hottest curry in New England like that's an area there. Skyrocketing in popularity right now that's being mentioned in the conversation that he does handle those scrapers car. Their awesome occasion to solo last year at the trip with five to Burlington. And we ended up on the way in Burlington beer company. Which I would say deserves to be mentioned really good. They have the what the colts on the keep up the wizard or Everett is the way audio wizard again this bee keeper which is really also my wife's favorite beer she's ever had called strawberry whale K it's actually an email and I thought I saw an ultimatum and I go those are your three favorite things aren't vehicles will properties whales and can write your marriage. But it's a cream ale and and so if you look at not as strawberry is the thing but there's a hint of it anyway is really good approach to their company. Then we also want the fall right in Bryant it's a great location great Beers there. And then we took the journey up the hill farms that which is one of the best probably be brought it replaces my wife thought was to my daughter that's like and go officer into the dirt road there I don't care broad but also your phone you lose your GPS because you're in the middle of nowhere. And there's nobody a marlin from a view there's nobody mile behind view and the news gets it robbery and it. And now you print out the map quest directions like 2001. It's it's so those are Vermont and then you mentioned optimists right yup so long and alchemist in November and it's expanded production dramatically. You know patty Topper was kind of quality OG I appreciated started all kind of com. That was the beard yet for awhile and I found it was still worried that was a year ago what is I think it's still great but that's like. Who wouldn't when I first got into beer and JD we work together at the time it right first really was like. School any like keystone prices for right day hike out ready to go to IPA's. I've ever it was either you or is like Feldman. Got Nia had it opera house like oh the game has been changed I would not like that I'd like now I made me and a number of shares of today original case can be for the head case limits of coffee for a had to go to a store before they shut it down the Dow's office and I'll bring them back I had felt the maker of fewer runs from a disease that produce those hockey games up there. Right angle salutes local black at a aria that Topper NASA that was as good as the guests. Would you don't you think about for that the main yet but I. And all my Summers in mean grown up and beer beer scene it's fantastic also especially in kind of greater Portland there. Bissell Brothers is easily my favorite member dates which nothing gold substance reciprocal. Their IPs are fantastic they also do some. Extraordinarily. Low EBV Beers down 20. I mean beer company dinner is kind of one as the golden goose. I say that's a quick conceal interview on fox. Just let my eye and the man I have the podcast you can turn off our mikes if you want I could a market that. Lunch. Lunch. Little overrated. I said it. I said it all always within the heat like Mo better on it and who I think most better attic papers better I think another one is better. I think it's three or four I've never had dinner beyond that never had dinner. But I think launch is good to get better at them that are actually there's a restaurant near me that had it knows that you got the best and I had it like it it's fine but I think it's a little overstated I was bill I was sold a bill go visiting when they're like. You gotta drive passenger hate mail to rich Keefe WEEI. Vietnam. War whenever. What putting as the about once in my rock and the like a set idea I think dinners fantastic I really like Momo. And then there's probably go on questions launch its solid but it's not it's not wanna vote for it which OG IPA's penny Topper better eat your forgot that the sunshine right now. Better than month await them Chia I think are outdated it's iso loved ones I think now that a pallets have changed people expect a certain certain thing out of New England IPS and wrote nice I mean I PA BC launch an expected to be they agree on easy Jews bomb of night and that is an Akron and it's different. And I think it's a great beer and I think. Known but people sleep on I'll drink it out. Well in just a touch on a couple of remains breweries are quickly that I have at least are all right next to each other so visible moments in time foundation. But if we need to put out its fantastic. Austin street and Al gas is kind of the we're region has been around forever but there's still doing. A ton of amazing stunt in mostly one Allie ash partner in the country is really idol OK. I roll the studio just gas. They are now out aghast why you can go to any part of the world that they're serving out your flight I'll take one and I'll enjoy that there's no better flight ship. But any theory then I'll actually laugh like that gave him irritates. Agree and I love it out Ashley you wanna respectable Reid haven't changed what they've don'ts and hope they've added on our games especially with all the what that would just in general a pop up next them you know like possible. Literally directly into legacy and complex and they're like yeah we know we're doing well it is you know I do you use them at the canning line in there and that's toy around with canning and that's. In that's tonight miss any enemy number there in two out of our expo. Ox bow our low box or I did say Austin street Austin's trees when they're exposed my it was my paper tap in Portland. Yes. I've not but this Brothers. I need to get there. They got a good. Good tapper and it is October to a Portland for them on the countless service Ayman accidents at those like before beer drinking as far overrated years ago I gotta go yeah as far as food and beer doing so go it's the message to go around food. I got your what I throw out there for New Hampshire and honest ethical so many brewers have passed them by but I still have a warm spot in my heart for somebody knows. Only because one of the first tap rooms that I went and visited I've actually been a Baltimore and they've moved event. And I like them I like some of their peers but they're just so many better ones now but it. New Hampshire I guess that sounds like you're from New Hampshire. There's a couple more. I got married in New Hampshire in on it in Portsmouth are not far from our ratings and you know Budweiser. Great rhythm is is right outside great Portsmouth great rhythm. Lot of IPA's. Yet. Tap room that won awards for league design it's a lot of fun they usually have eight things on draft. They canned stuff only available bird but it's really good and appear opt in now partner interest. Rhode islander. I think Imus and Ireland's provinces are now have a good we are seeing now mean mainly what I it's a different province are long lived through works and break down the street that is his great beer all that. Is will be buried and I highly recommend if your in Providence go to makers that place has incredible food out this is stellar. In the spirit of the health said in tree house tilted barn which is a literal bar in on a farm. They dueled some of their cops do and proclamation which is mr. Newbury those Enron affair again especially as it is ours that's for about all the New England again one of Warren Connecticut fox farm brand new. Also brewers' Dave Linley. Zero IPA's Darren Newbury I think beer ads kid just name and one of the best new breweries in the country but they're stuff is unbelievable. I really like them. They're available if you're here in the Greater Boston area I know some of the bars around here certainly get them to. If we get a top ten and an aura and his right now but we did it top ten New England parades. How many of the Massachusetts ones do you think would make it and so again if that's the Massachusetts list. Trillion treehouse and definitely in idle hands to me is definitely exhibit days definitely and but then nights at that lamp later that might be able line where you start to introduce all the Vermont Maine want to write about it like five masks so that. Yeah foam hale farm stead Bissell Brothers definitely have to be in there for me yeah right I'll run out of gas have privacy probably pass to be in the somewhere it is but try and doing that ranking half that roughly would be masters yes that's. Arts and you know like you'd be meddling in Connecticut maybe Nevada isn't so yeah maybe nine out of ten would be Vermont Massachusetts and yeah yeah that's for sure. Art this is the follow once the when he got to play the wegmans go to some of these other stores that have all these different Beers. They allow you to make your own six pack so. The question we oppose now to everybody here. If every single beer was available and let's say within a beautiful sixteen ounce canned. Would the logo which as those very important if they were all available to you. You get the Philippines six pack. What would be it. Let's start we've JD. All right all Diaz on a mild rally cash now I would always go and I'll ask what is it six now against the Euro as well as I still Alley outweigh this load it up politics and now it's just that this note and all toy -- gas lack the calls right. There's a catch and other entitlement hazards. You know be part you know it. Esther you very partial sleep on our part now FY Al nationally nine problem might listen it's there's a recruiter yes and I've Lavelle hyper that passed. Russian river consecration. Real sour Oca Alec. And you are I mean you go there PA's go on any elder and younger Google blind pig which are things better than the elder bush I don't consecration. Next again and when you'll might local love notch there's local beer was the best bureaucrat in the camp last year in this area. Eighties he wonderfully refreshing beer has little bit of spice to it just so we can drink all day. Out in the summer lawnmower beer watching football Barbara cue to scrape here. And of the Michelob Ultra tree house good morning. With a darker beer. I love the maple alone that kind of coffee flavor to it. 00 we've still farms at Abner. Yet souls on my island yes amazing beer. And then surrounded on to go to those are some sorts all go with those are you well. All right predict what that event sure Ian. All preface this by saying I'm only listing the years that I've try it because there's a lot of good Beers like on the talk about it you know Trieste is king Juli is and you know things like that. Beers I'd never had the opportune to try before and so I I'm not gonna put abuse that have never had a on on my ultimate six back. So I got very green from tree house green is my favorite of their standard rotational Beers Barry green is even better in that. Headroom from trillium it annoys me they only put it out once a year but it makes me want more. JD just mentioned this but planning the younger is my favorite of the play any Beers from Russian river. All the way across the country. Odd dinner from Maine beer I'd love it it's not New England easy styled but I actually like those little batter. Key factually just drank one of these so fast crowded and even taste it but double dried out. Double mosaic dream. Is from other half in New York City as a one of my favorite I did enjoy and now. I'm gonna repeat one here but Abner from hell foreign said there's a bunch of health Armstead Beers that could be on here for me that I like. All about the same thing app as it goes. Saw its Unionists so for mile with six pack the first from there is the Abner and it's our. It's not I I did not talk about doesn't know it always depleted at all it's funny so what I it was on that same ball opera legend trip one of the restaurants that we just happen to go when there have a beer maybe even have a bite to eat. It we went in there and they add that on tap. And we knew the next day we're gonna go to help farm stead but aisles like let me try this partners like got a glass like this is amazing. And we went out there and I feel that my biggest grower would Abner. Average probably my favorite here and it's a little Abner. As one of home. Not kissing up could this year provide what the six team from idle hands as one of mine as well. I would go with the Julius from tree house again at that everything trio but what he said they can do this forever but this standard Julius and long would that. I'm gonna go I have to do something from trillium. They're cutting tiles visited double RI PA that they had a however though that it would limit whatever that was like a stomach after limo that when ago when they don't currently make it. But the Veba hop era tonight at a way to make them make it again and I'm gonna go with the topic here which is a me it's just the amazing beer and everybody tweet at night shift in assets neighbors and they you know caught the rich keep from now did you don't know who likes that the only like long hash tags I'm angry and asked at that point between that. And then I'm gonna go. If there all the store I know it's all school. All the heavy Topper of guys added if it's in there I'm taking as far as my health but expect Arlo. All right so that those borrowers expect to get mine is very dominant five the six RIP is a double PA's. What are some of the best non IPA's. In. New England again JD UN you'd handful of familiar ultimate expect edit. You know I'll actually is its staple for belt that is. The best that's made in this country are to be you know really heart be a lot of you'll try to make that's aisles it is that. Note ten. I like bloggers a lot you know only vague mention. And in colts not a longer but I mentioned exhibit a mix next uncles and so does doubles per summit he cod that Kohl's and hot summer day. It just goes and so smooth it is delicious. I'm not idle hands about the other guy got a law bars cues from a seriously yeah. They're gonna tell slugger coming outs Marron cans. You know it's a beautiful summer beer. Now what. Yet goody two shoes Agricole sets and it's awful bureau brings as I can drinking quick and JD mentioned good morning I've never been able to get that one but double shot from tree houses it in. Canadian breakfast on Kentucky breakfast out from founders are both really good. A trillion makes him on two good pale Wales I don't know if that counts is different maker of Somalis that I was yeah there's very little to either of them being done out down the road. Not far from idle hands not far from night shift to make some really good sours some we spears that I late in that people and real like those during those a lot. Com and so you're doing if you wanted to lick a low cool. That both were re crawl yeah should go out of that area and an idol audience tonight shipped. And go to down the road in judgment today and Bono is right there just blown up that's that's where you want up and until foreign said if you're in Dover is a full article blog you can there's a portrait or you you could almost walk from. And then he'll forested wild tales if you're doing kind of those type of Beers there are the ones to I think make the best of those that I currently Felix. Some farmhouse on. Arguments to view the hobby aero that are rated basically Evernote that are brought back once they could bring it back again the strawberry will take that my wife while the law this hour's that are really good night shift at the whole series zones you can just however you like whether the F revise or. In her place the made or vice out of vice Kate Cotter Fides there's one. Look for devices from our parents that they have and that they were is that they kill your idols are the particulars of the tropical one. I think is is really agree are what about the best beaters that aren't that hard to find in stores so let's say you're not he'd take it out to. The craft beer seller we can't get out to one of these places that really specialized than it. What are ones that you picker are available for people. I mean we talked about a lot of these that are easier defines now old bomb. One's a mention that we haven't really talked about our island jigsaw jazz from fort a lot of it is a 9% Beers that drinks like up 5% a year and if so assists and it's also you can get a six pack of twelve ounce cans for light. Ten bucks look it's not. It's not priced up like a lot of the Beers on year in like we said Springdale. On the starting to be more widely distributed now there's a lot of good Beers from them 87 from night shift again. That's one that I really let the. One how seriously do you see I don't know places in the one hop. Me personally I like the us a truck a lot out of the mosaic a lot. The LO was not my favorite. What monitor him right now there's there a couple other ones are like OK I was out I would highlight sister and mosaic. In going outside of the region to fly overseas that have never been to us pseudo sue. From toppling Goliath is around a lot now they have a big just distribution around here. And that's a pain. And a pale ale that. I just I just love and that's around on I'll drink panel that. I think if you're looking for readily available Beers in Massachusetts Jack's daddy the gap fire hazard to it's everywhere now desolate. And I guess right. By the op ponies union is an all over the jets having lake house longer for the price point that it's Andrea is a great beer and saying how ponies union and a lot of specialty Beers are everywhere ought castle islands a Felix you're seeing it everywhere and there are a lot of places now and wegmans distribution and don't wegmans and they have them and notch. I like he studied them in every story either it's usually the pills or left of the Nile boat bull Carlson Beers and if you haven't Seattle. Infinite jest is there a week here that they do in the summertime. That is perfect for floating Italy Benito Leo yes lovely clothes you know it's sneaky. Available loss spots now is that the sunshine. Which I really like from all Boston's by wegmans last summer got a bad they have a whole role might banged out I was like wait a minute. They're borrowing a bunch of and Medicare right now we have a lot of places around two roads I think was who used to brew all of it from them I'm not sure if that's so that he's like yeah relatives against not my eyes out my top five but like I I enjoy it more than most you've inning if you're even from out of the region like ten. No in New York's. Tenet are what about in what you mentioned a couple of these already believe bars and restaurants that are. Far out of the way from here that have a sneaky really good deal. That one's a bit Ormsby Abby and bluster is in my opinion the single best beer and their scores or because they're all. They have the ones that literally at that rod down these dirt roads defiantly somehow I have a connection to help arms for a layup and I don't say they have limited the years they have every can be your you can and that's it and they also own another brewer Bob Barr called dive bar that's in Lesotho. I'm here in greater Boston public house is the classic one in Brookline. Great new year not far from where we are now is a lose that as of ever expanding beer list next aren't getting some new things like fox farm from Connecticut and things like that. Bomb and I really like if you're getting food and beer brewers fork in Charleston has been tasked sick Beers and great pizza. I'd go and world. I echo arms reality. Accounts my favor are in Boston. 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