Not Sunday, Ep. 5: Kirk talks state of Boston sports media; Fauria rips Dwayne Allen

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Wednesday, October 11th

Episode 5 of the Not Sunday podcast with Ryan Hannable features Kirk Minihane going in-depth on the current state of Boston sports media and what has gone wrong in recent years, Christian Fauria discussing the struggles of Dwayne Allen, as well as why he liked Thursday games, and Rich Keefe looking back at the win in Tampa Bay and ahead to Sunday's game against the Jets.


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Use NFL. When Brian Hannibal Kurt Schmidt and Richie and Christian Fauria these ultimatums football. So let's get started with the NFL it's Sunday and now here's Brian Hannibal. He proved wrong area after one just. The stakes are going to. Yes congratulations Brian it's quite accomplishments made by we today podcast. That's saying a lot around here. The report that's the point is so gonna keep this stupid name is dumb name it and it. Now the name's gonna stay and we got new open and the annual we had to take out the old ones and copyright issues so we. I heard there was. I heard the first four weeks thought it was some foundation does something. Sent some some quality issues with the intro symptoms not the can't use but it's it's rebrand it to work on this the rebrand them than not Sunday podcast. OK I like I was a relationship going Libya with a missed some good. Everything's good everything's got to have as I was old. That. We've been agreed to much I I agree to the I think that we might buy it piracy. Now now it's and that through the Greg who lineup I was hurt and just I was told you load my. I hope someone someone from the station. Oh. Rob Bradford. Okay that's why do it anyway. Obviously. I think we you know he's right we do agree too much I think that's on me that's on me. By just saying I just say stop and you could agree or disagree on the really out there and you're saying I can reactive to the hoax that the. Mr. but I wanna get robbed and stuff besides besides Tom Brady your. You know you've you've been so highly critical of you know some young journalists in this town there really isn't in on an up and coming notes sports reporter. What what makes a good one and why isn't there one you know one that's in your eyes. What would have been no choice so much reporters. Upbeat about it reporters are dead and all agree of the reporters are real word anymore I think. You have to be sort of I've heard a lot of things I think generally the generation younger than me. The next guys Allen had not shown. A willingness to be just like. It's. I can get along with that but any you think it's because of what do you agree with. Not totally but I normally I know we're kind governments not it's not more disagreement do you think that's because of Porter and you know you wanna get that's what lies. I've said it too many times I know. And I understand you know 89 years ago when I was doing weekend that was just a Twitter for the first time. I remember if you go back and no one uses people like older guys go in you have the secret like oh I like this guy he's fresh and different body and always go to right here these awful and boy did they want to work but what I think apple and what say. If you don't have yeah of course. And what stuff about regular about what Saddam wants your comparable that you don't error. And it's I mean that there are paying your bills. You know that it did did they don't bail out there Iraq and me but they're certainly welcome out there and you are now stuff. But they don't matter much you realize that put her arms or other like trot trot their biggest problem affecting you dislike. I would which relic and a category he's a guy who's younger than me like a year younger whatever who doesn't mind me despite that he did actually get off. I give you do you think it's a matter of him you know just not be afraid to ask tough question do you think tough questions. Are getting asked there's a more of the style of writing. I get more of the there has been at some point I don't know what happened. This sort of the sports writers. We got a radio guys that were in this battle against each other and the sportswriters are in the position of saying they were around every day. In May know more than they usually they say this thing about the manager of player we note such Trulia. Offend them. In their if you look at it. When there's a battle they are always defending the athletes we are critical via the opposite is never true. So you know I think over the course of a year. With the budget guy if you develop sort of relationship but some of them there's no doubt. And I think that things I think that this sort of you know and what I mean you'd think you know a report so it gives shape and Jason Castro or Ian of course. I think overall what this Red Sox Ewing that's. Not correct I think that you know the media isn't fully defending the Red Sox this year to slugger David Price Dustin Pedroia although all those guys I think that that's not true with this year's Red Sox seem merit. That's sure to some extent but I mean you know I don't know might see a lot of criticism Pedroia in the view writers I missed. Ozzie wrote a good call on him tell it that would calm to not beat the guys who were in there every single day backer rob last night. Fifteen minutes after the pocket fees that is on the radio. Which. Well the guys that with rich east and he said you know. He's probably art art art art art is bigger jerk. Oh okay. OK we get any other excuses as guys who again they're pretty low yesterday you know can copyright selling his teammates out. This part of the group and applauded accurately what does manage to get done yet they saw in the playoffs again means. You know. Immaculate. I all year. You know what what you know. I'd defend. Nobody I think that just the center of you know being around him in dealing with that the backlash of the of a of a player Pedroia is specifically every single day you know you know how it is if if you write a calmer hate peace critical player. You're probably you're probably getting here but it and that's obviously why. You know maybe some reporters me included are reluctant to write some of these things to appoint her. But if I I think as a whole though it if if if criticism is fair people are gonna do it is about to happen with David Price this year so I think the whole they're of that. People gather I mean our red. Think yeah the thing David Price is he treated me there I'll (%expletive) this guy. Like after like after it defended an independent heated story Tibetan and defended him and then what they realize though he's actually tree it's a pocket or going well. OK it is big different dynamic and that I can sit there and studio. In a lot mom criticizing got left and right never historical walking in there ever writes seat. David Price and Dustin Pedroia and John Farrell what's the year or at most I'd never seen the patriots and Celtics. You know I don't see whatever owners which I never have to deal on the different position but somewhat like. So never understood the art and so I just want to a couple of one. What what what purpose why I don't mean I agree I can make you better archer yeah I don't know if we have different jobs I mean I understand the most. In most of the guys in the past. If by big bill that's now a lot you are too I've noticed certainly no particular out of Florida. Miami much for your relation between mean to be just fine I'm not in my life will go on. Whoever. Auburn hasn't talked. You know April got. Well I know that from from their point of view their criticisms you know you hear your car on the media people here are free to call meet people out in each other and the media people write anti tethering that's that's the thing that I think bothers him the most Alvin daycare. Review. It or I had a lot of conversation about a minute and the people. I'm just around and I know I'll I know how ignorant you you use this. In Europe. Guys I sing a bit problematic but it McCauley a coworker somebody who frankly right. You know put money in your pocket my existed teach you that you ought. And you don't you know you're not defense you know the new. I assume you are good guys say that you're offered. Right you're right I do what I can and that it's appropriate. It's interpret. All right but when you're right I mean people forget people don't really realize that you are out in the field you've covered considerable symbolic actually what are at. Yeah. What are you like it as a writer. I would call this the right of the beauty of never going to be got sort of stayed out I very rarely ask questions. It was a way I always you know you may disagree and to be mostly a waste of time I think garbage yard your body GO RD it's certain. Thing that was in that you should put this back up off the Wyman says the program anyway. It's a I recruited that don't. Lighten your poll you'll get thing we're talking that's why don't have athletes ought to do we got guys but I acknowledge that not. Two point I think that you get some good stuff by adding that the Gilmore after the game was telling the same he's better off covering one guy I think that was telling drug armor against that good stuff about defense after that the game to be a year ago a lot of pictures but we are talking to a to an offensive linemen about you know does. The object of lime flavors do you buy DeVine Unita gaining out of it but I think. If you pick your spots there's aptly summed taken out of and I you know I have this debate all the time is it worth going down to Foxboro I think it's also a broader. Volatile market value I gotta tell you I'll tell you I would. Don't Rock the Vote in charge of the web site which I've asked you several times in the crime against a backdrop devoured charge of the of the web site I would tell all he. Turning your press passes you're not you know doing you're not waste our money you know waste your time right destroy it televisions. You think there's some bees that are being married and now. Just that to be there in the eyes of the team to realize that now your parting now now now. Easy I know. I don't show earlier putting. Time and effort into covering the team I think there's on beset her but it but it. What we're. Now the team to realize it hasn't all your parting the title. You're speaking games except putting have a great thing to putting in so. I would say we're not know we're not we're not putting effort. I mean that's that's how you hear your opinion from the talk radio sites that the decide comes out. Or it figured out and I think there's a writer I would tell rob all the time. So what is that sixteen hours of talk a bit of fox or you get dirt and it ought to sit there and do nothing did you know. You wait for the Mac. You get the inactive sheets that they want Saddam game it's much better watch it again my GB it is the press box. You sit there after the game you wait you Beecher puppet keynote your apples in August so that eagle on sixteen hours later Edwards story like what what the hell that just yet. Well the one thing I will say about that is people do fall in the trap of just going you know and and focusing on the story ever Nelson writes there is some be sad for spotting some that's different than everyone else I think that we as a dot com site have made is some sort of effort to do that and I think it with football league guard the other locker him try to tell us. I got a team to talk (%expletive) about the patriots and. That does not the not not to pat myself on the back I'm gonna start doing I mean when the jets beat the patriots and what happened what the Bart Scott Bart Scott went crazy like. I was never so the ticket bought from and never went anywhere that would sit there like it's obvious but it I'm like forget it. The other guys have some personality so micro markets go by Bart Scott go fight for real you know. Now I doesn't agree I think I think you know I was doing this a lot of callers and it was sort of eye opening that I always the only guy in the Boston market almost to be any opposing locker room when you have. Five guys from the globe five guys from Harold. Comcast you stand on the patriots locker in minutes like you're missing out on the street opportunity when guys are actually you know willing to sockets speak their minds cannot be monotone like the patriots. It most of us edit it I mean that's why didn't write that Errol Louis suburban papers for 25 years. They sit there and all the pack it sit there and wait wait for press conferences for. For Bill Belichick Tom Brady after the game between these didn't train trip anyway. Question just say it's just say it's a Polaroid it greatly. Right before LA go got to ask you a little bit about Brady every this week or are your thoughts. The radiator this week to try telling that young man he thought it was me against. Him. I'll yell what it was like I mean I don't know where that are good games art. Especially you know the other stuff going on yeah I don't Weinsteins stop the other Red Sox you know what's weird stuff going on. That third Nike about money or brown is quite a bite actually get beat by week's sort of question. You know I wanna talk but we didn't but Cuba three years ago. Conservatives in between spot where you know it poverty totally eat eat in the mystical musical act if they okay well I guess for you ought to try. You gotta bend like Jim Gray and asked me if Peyton Manning texted him in in this and after tying the wins record you know let's not by you guys got petite dumplings. Now it's up I think Brady you know is so. Concerned about saying the wrong thing out you say if you like in the music like yes I grow up that's very. To me I understand I do get coming from a I don't think people think gum. Bring it up why straight Natalie he's forty years old record hammered believes. So he's two years younger and I. Especially rough ride up so I'd say it and you're like Cobb Eddie. Like a guy my age is age is going to be like property like that or is it like herbs are gonna like rapid beat people like you do. Or whatever whoever of these in pro am. There bonnet and he'll. It has no there's no and you know heeded. I don't know what that may be is that mine answer the question. What do you think and his shoulders that it's bothering him. I mean I'd start Erica via. And that story today or mode you're the party. Which you are here and scooby. He's brought over that's that's stories or lower or far from enemies he was actually on the podcast last week spore aid bill. Sure I'm sure I have a drug problem is Brady's shoulders broad is probably the worst flooding Ott right mean yeah I'd get a breeze as a minor injury and a these bigger outing this year I believe it out for a bigger way to fix shoulder but evidently he has. Well they'd at least on the bring up next weekend well you know some some life back into the show me Abraham Guerrero in the work he's been. I guess these are I think it will up port secure. I would say that you know you get a Getty you're getting a Brady was injured. I think you're great and you're Brady's life which means you might get more the lock it up or not hypocrisy. Yeah all right well Leo I know you beat you got to go out prepare for the the body issues in the league at the gym some more. I have I'm keeping a mailbag podcasts that are if you're any questions feel free treatment. Kirk meant. I edit that's right that's right we duties are familiar podcasts of levee don't yeah I knew he got any good questions what what's the just aren't a lot of freedom Reimer I'm glad. Cremated would be John dentistry or Tang Wei he's amassed surveyed. Yeah just from my daughter from the jig and Joe's money. Well I don't I try accurate look at between government rhetoric it was apartment looked I brought governor single spot. What but we we we shot I don't wanna be the point like you know your bag for bush ordered a pick up. What about guest on line anyone you on that we might have gone down the road spots. I Capel and opera couple weeks of mash unit pushed back for traditionally producers right now on every new producer you're going forward so. Or pictures from the issues that right now. The article whoa whoa whoa well don't give it a couple of guys oh given away yet really honestly because we ignore that. I actually have had possession iPad for awhile. Ted serene it's. I look up their turn this now we tried for catcher pitcher and not. Audio oldies I'm like yeah Adams Eddie Eddie Andelman Dino Arnott in the podcast money and why Arnold Arnold podcasts. They don't I have audit you know yet any relation reporters and. Now he shared a flight home from Tampa but no no relationship heap he probably ought Riley again. We don't go on right. I mean great for years and last year QB is not any art argue that's kind of the same stump on the same breed. Yeah I think so and it but it'll orbit and Iraq and Iran yes it there. But by and but yes that we are buy it but we always a lot like really a lot of Comcast together. An outlook that on projects that it could be actually to be really good yes but. It is turning down he try any part two shots that could be. Well you know what's. What they've merger happen. Our anchor will a go to our week. I. After a week hiatus Christian Fauria is back welcome back Christian glad your film better. Rather bad about being in literally back again and you know so. Well I paper. Yeah I wonder how nasty couple specific ones they gave back a couple weeks. I want outlook Dwayne Allen in his brawl when you play tie in for the patriots in the Tom Brady offense. Is unusual for number two retired and to not have a catch through five games. Yeah it is and it's very. Curious. Because I'd see Allen in college scene when it was Indies so I know he can do. Now. That we got the skill and the some good message. Out all these check out. He'd given up relate to art. Or just taking longer to figure out and then you know in that great about our. Yeah well on it every. Girl. It's seem like. And go to law whether it's ready to about a Alpert wrote shortly at the double covered you know. And you you got to be got to make the age old problem riddle solved. Maybe didn't have any design plays it building and have a leg work like right where personally. Invited for you'd want a because we really appreciate how hard work. It dedication. The work ethic during the week and on game you know word or what are make sure we thought that certainly. So. That brought. The other red zone stands out to me when you have a guy like Rob Gronkowski demands dulled team's all time you always Khaled Deb the other tight end to have you know a lot of characters in the red zone just as the match ups and and that as a band there. So you imagined before is this a case of just Brady kind of phasing him out realizing you know I I better options I'm I'm Ella here way. And I think the only way I didn't really great Britain and really not look. You definitely want. Want to play well down. Herman Moore are about a lot. A reputation about bill you know it's like you don't you can't do that. Jordan. You're you're gonna get it checked out your route to get a war. Again it the number one you are gonna happen you're gonna block block block an out and you will grow up act there. But I sort of back the night on the year. Right so. I don't this could have been adopted and 100 or maybe catch up surely belong actually won't let them down. A little bit more ball he should be more ball. Yeah I mean whenever you go under again with tight ends of Dwayne Allen and and and Cody Hollister and none of those guys even get targeted some tightens up. Yeah I agree and now all we've played itself out. You know what helped arm didn't really it's alternate ways but it. Now to the other side of the ball and I think I heard you talking about this late last week after Stephon Gilmore as comments after the game about being able to just yet he had his best and match up against one guy. To me that a sort of bad look on his part because he got the most money bill budgets ever given to a defensive player. And you really want to act you know go on record saying you can only cover one guy that does is it really is an add up to me. Yeah you know it is the best bet where. And the money the money show we don't really tell the story. If you got a lot of money you know much of the multi expected. So I don't feel what you're doing your future be like. Iceland army knife. You've got a big number small acutely cover of alleged are on the right side. In no way at their best lawyer did in a tight end. Try to help. Government. Which ready. So. Burton that we got out you know agents being that. Should that should be decreased should be there in all of you maybe the opposite. You know and maybe he should take longer bigger and how. Bigger worry. That are happily like. Quite a lot but he years you know pretty great motor way and that one April again. It's Gilmore because Smart steps and out the OJ. You know don't edit maybe I'll get that. But so are. And I figured I think it will be I think it will figure out but that we use. Well it Alec did pick up a lot of people they do not court ordered. Regardless it remotely. Oh marriage between. Back and did at the back. And the backs pressures like that although I didn't hear you at all out the other bishop the occasional bad grow. Oh they are always merit it. One as a Lamar question about Gil Martin the pagers thinner bring him in turn off seize the firm visit before they signed him. You think that played that plays an evening and damn you are not getting things and maybe the patriots not realizing that because of of that day is there a do you think those visits. Are sort of meaningless and they sell everything they need to see on tape. Well the only one agreement for me to make sure all law is actually got a personality talk. You're looking at BP as what import it and it needed to try to get your new gig at least everything you wanted here. The ultimate test. He opened it I got to fire is what looked like bill. Easy black quarterbacks see whether he got great weather we're covering the circumstances. You know I'll Ron how we recover. Be prepared to LAG. So. I don't think that's the be all and all that good you bring it. Well isn't ideal candidate is what you'd done it they are not been an up Earl reed or ought to look at what grade but already. Schroeder or not at all or. But that's really pretty legit corner. And they obviously up to it. I want to ask you about rob Marcos Steve you you know playing with the patriots and nine how things work was it a sign that they brought him to Tampa was that it was a true game time decision and they really didn't know until Thursday that he wasn't gonna go. Ali got most guys that are on her probable. You know one of those situations. Where you know you're really close. It is bad it agreed. Legal weight being mulled China people who didn't treat it. Hours bigotry. And what you're not intrigued you're you're out I agree don't you got at least he thought it would. But he also object gates Thursday morning ready. I don't know your coach a way out or is there around one you know. Our. So much there all right Thursday at 430. Ago. Outward. Any more days. I don't you go from there they brought you gotta be happy at all and archer activities he was finish but I'm old so. You know like it is that they ought to relapse let me. The youth playing Thursday games are in the league they deny do you that there. I don't Bert again but it worked they didn't gates yeah it didn't like one vote a lot like shortly Brett. I grew up there ever a bad it's much that radio report he got it we saw you need to rest. The playbook with GP. You do look and light it up but Wednesday. Beaten really short yeah. You know a flight 0100. What an extra bite. So I like or nine a lot of it and I. I agree because you watched you as a reserves nine's are so bad. Yet it just terrible all nobody ready. I want to hear it all like Detroit and Dallas look at it first read it resent it you can really. Manipulators you're not talking about really Portuguese. But doing it every year or he could do it. Well. Watered down anyway oh. I'll put all the other up on EP. It's not a good product. Yeah regret out. Before really don't want to ask you about this Sunday's game against the jets first place on the line do you think the jets are for real art it's executed McVeigh played the first couple weeks and we'll see you know the real jets in the real patriots on Sunday. Now now now that it's got. Not real. On the jets are terrible. And you may play. A ground ball you can easily look at each world wow what a but a lot yet but believes. It's it's not the law go out there and smoke this scene in a bigger side and it being out how much trouble there. I'd be a good they don't law and I look back at thirty all she wrote. They are real weapons. Allow Powell is he is being. Fortunate where the last couple weeks. They're speaker why America should get another look. I. Feel bad. The game they should nominee is the game it's all done it should be thirty ordered. 36 to ten. And congratulations because opposite that bush should be no move the ball back 1088. If you watched the wild jets are probably about a little bit how bad bowl. So horrible. While it like that pay. The pay to the patriots. Everybody beat them up into them the ball well. Did you make proper troubled corner until it is early and not. Now. Well mark. You have an all right out as being definite definite then I looked like or are out. A way bigger out. Harry was good to have you back this week my journey to replace last week in college a pretty boy. All right. I acted it all well and our mayor do about it and he. Did you meet her up. Only 003. Bush. Arie thanks lockers without the or it seems like a long time it's the patriots actually play the game it's almost ten days ago. Words thoughts and came. Surprised by the defense I mean I think we talk about this last week after what they allowed against the Carolina Panthers I was assuming Tampa Bay is that northern light it up you know James Woods it was come off a good game it. Bad you know Doug Martin was back healthy they're two really good receivers a couple of tight ends that they get the order. So I was expecting a big time shoot out in a polio was one of those kind of crappy Thursday night games were neither team he scored twenty points but. When all the criticism that's Stephon Gilmore got an and really the defense has a hold out that was the big take awaited me was just holding Tampa Bay two touchdowns repressive. You think they'll stick to that you know that match up with the quarterbacks. Progress this season or do you think that you know Tampa Bay specifically was just a team to do that again. Yeah I think she. I don't do it all season I mean it it works or maybe they should in a way but. Not every team has a Mike Evans or DeSean Jackson or certainly the combination of the two so your take on the jets for example this weekend you wanna. The cement Robbie Anderson have been maybe you'd maybe you do just because we spend a divorce in the right place if there's not just these open holes in the in the zone so. That that's a good question I wanna fill go back to that or they declared the first four weeks. That's what they wanted to do just didn't work out and so you change your whole defense because potentially one player wasn't getting it. Now I worked into maybe they'll maybe they'll just you know have to change their way it'll. While I think what you'll Omar's comments after the game with saying he's desperate to match up with guy you can really wanna have Jerry guy that you paid you know the most money ever to Bill Belichick saying hey I gotta cover one guy that's as much like India. Speed as tour of with a little bit about what ram does for a guy Malcolm Boller is done Harry from the page to master and yet he's still sitting there with no contract. Gave you you've been huge content of it that give more deaths in regional play one way which is very strange and it's also it seems like a misjudged on the patriots are I don't live in five games in in the last that was probably his best spot. They usually love guys can play multiple spots you know it offered to live in the complaint also response or org guys in the secondary second play a couple of different roles. It's to spend that kind of money on a corner that says back into one thing but yeah that that is strange. Yes and it's I think will be five that we find this against the jets released him that I haven't you know much Talbott bend in two weeks ago thousands Montana football right I think that's sort of a bigger reason why the patriots Brian Gilmore as they saw what happened in the super bowl of them having some mismatches on the outside so. Maybe that's begin and we truly to see what you know the real stuff on numerous. Vasily and it he gets matched up on Julio Jones and is able that the hold them down I guess. You never know what Julio Jones is health and what that's going to be about the benefits if those two guys. Then yeah you're you're kind of frustrated that he can't do everything you want to do but that's why you pay guys that kind of money is all these top police receivers there's going to be a few more on the schedule as well you'll probably see some more in the playoffs. He got a deal to hold those guys down. Offensively do you look at it as a team to stay now bribery cows he was just you know authors in nineteen he has is that the reason why in many points. Yeah I mean that's it's time you know there probably have to play another day without Brock at some point this year too but it was weird it and he he made the trip them so clearly they thought he was going to be able to put at least they're hopeless and all the play. And then there's her vote last minute type of deal where OK he's not gonna ago. And Aaron expect them to score 35 points every single week so they're gonna have some ups and downs. The use of the office of line and it was lose that's really great in that game they've been kind of up and down at certain times but. Know that if they're gonna win a game. You know by five points let's say against Tampa Bay the fact it was lower scoring actually feel better overall fitness the defense played well I still believe in the offense whereas. If backing was 42 to 38 eats it aired here we go again near the defense is the broken. Apparently he got here normal Sunday this week that the team on the road 1:1 o'clock game so yes nine to one NFL Sunday we are back no more Red Sox either separatists are full show is lethal applaud her acts foolishness yes I think thanks.